Aredesta Faer
Black Knight Society
The Knights Templar.
Hi Everyone,
I have an indy alt that I want to use for mining. I'm skilling her up for just some high-sec Kernite mining and refining right now.
I'm not fond of any loadouts on Battleclinic for the Retriever. (Actually, I've been a bit disappointed in that site. A friend in-game said that trolls hang out on Battleclinic. If anyone could give me another site that has decent suggested loadouts, then that would be greatly appreciated.)
What are good fittings for high-sec mining with a Retriever (and possibly a low-sec fitting as well)?
As far as high-sec mining, do you think Kernite mining and refining is the most lucrative? If not, then what for high-sec?
Any other advice is more than welcomed.
Thank you. I appreciate your time.
Fly safe.
Best,
Aredesta
Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
247
I've never seen a fitting on battleclinic that I adopted 1:1 but often times it will point in the general direction
It honestly can't be that hard in the case of a mining ship....
highs: mining laser (wow... whodathunk)
mids: tank
lows: mining laser upgrades
In low-sec fit a stab because you're more likely to have to use it.
Karak Bol
Crepuscular
88
Use aligntime Rigs. And a Procurer in Lowsec along with some ECM or if you feel ballsy combat drones. Maybe you are lucky and you find a dumb Frigate pilote :D For the Question what to mine:
http://ore.cerlestes.de/index.html#site:ore
So no, Kernite is no good. Mine scordite instead.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
309
Don't bother with low sec, aint worth it.Life is short and dinner time is chancy
Eat dessert first!
Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
45
Here is sth to aim for.
[Retriever, Retriever HS]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Damage Control II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Scordite Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Scordite Mining Crystal II
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Hobgoblin II x5
You will need to use a Genolution CA-2, or downgrade to a meta invul. Use your hobs for defense against rats and don't stay stationary but orbit the rock you are mining.
Have in mind that retrievers are prime targets in HS for ganking, mainly due to the fact that most miners tend to not tank them while using the big cargo hold to remain semi-afk. Don't do that, stay at the keyboard and mine responsibly.
For LS, you are much better off with a Venture or a Procurer. Here is a Procurer fit that might help:
[Procurer, Procurer LS]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Damage Control II
Medium Shield Extender II
EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Hedbergite Mining Crystal II
Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Hobgoblin II x5
Lastly, regarding BC you will often find that non combat loadouts/hulls are often ridiculed, mainly due to the fact that they are very straightforward to fit. There are exceptions though...XD
Whitehound
1505
Bertrand Butler wrote:
There are exceptions though...XD
2680 trolls and 322 down votes. It is Battleclinic in a nutshell right there.Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Q 5
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
97
O | o your planning on mining in low sec with a retriever,
Your fit should be,
Insurance on your barge
Total t1 fit
Current updated clone
And a copy of the PAX Amarra cause your gonna need alot of preying for the God's of insert name of deity here --->(____________)
And no implants either that's a waste in low sec.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
1350
Q 5 wrote:
And no implants either that's a waste in low sec.
Buh? If you can't get a pod out in low then you need to reevaluate your priorities. Or you got caught in a smarty camp/gank, but even those are survivable with decent skills.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
122
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Q 5 wrote:
And no implants either that's a waste in low sec.
Buh? If you can't get a pod out in low then you need to reevaluate your priorities. Or you got caught in a smarty camp/gank, but even those are survivable with decent skills.
Just Google "how to not get podded eve" and the top result is a very educational youtube video. Nullsec yes you'll get podded due to bubbles but you shouldn't get podded in lowsec if you're not AFK.
Not getting podded is so simple but few actually take the time to learn it. I learned years ago from a pirate in lowsec that felt sorry for me and haven't got podded outside of nullsec since.
Sebistor
Exiled Kings
Enlightened Violence
miner I, II's or strip miners
Huttan Funaila
Terminal Radioactivity
Spaceship Samurai
211
Bertrand's fit is pretty good. Speaking from experience, when you are mining in lowsec, fit 2 warp core stabilizers in your procurer otherwise you will lose your ship to anyone able to lock before you warp out. A retriever isn't going to be able to tank the belt rats in lowsec let alone cope with other players. Evasive Maneuvering V is important in low/null.
As for the fits on Battleclinic, there are some bugs where whatever ship you upload, the site thinks it is an Executioner, so a lot of fits get lost due to bugs. You can't delete your fits. The players there frequently post remarks such as "stop posting mining fits" and downvote.
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy
The ROC
929
Lowsec really is not the place for a retriever.
I'd advise you to use a procurer. Especially in some parts of lowsec, people will suspect you are bait anyway and you will get left alone more than you might think.
I will hunt a retriever for a while if I see one in lowsec. I pass up on a procurer.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1499
IIshira wrote:
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Q 5 wrote:
And no implants either that's a waste in low sec.
Buh? If you can't get a pod out in low then you need to reevaluate your priorities. Or you got caught in a smarty camp/gank, but even those are survivable with decent skills.
Just Google "how to not get podded eve" and the top result is a very educational youtube video. Nullsec yes you'll get podded due to bubbles but you shouldn't get podded in lowsec if you're not AFK.
Not getting podded is so simple but few actually take the time to learn it. I learned years ago from a pirate in lowsec that felt sorry for me and haven't got podded outside of nullsec since.
All the bluster of "if you can't get out in your pod youFAIL!!" is full of crap for one basic reason: if the other guy(s) have SeBo and/or Remote SeBo, you're dead. No amount of spamming will get your pod out if you're locked and pointed. Period. Remember: half of the 'leet low or null miners here don't tell you they mine in blue sov space, and know quickly when baddies are in the system from their corp or alliance intel channels.
Pay attention, and if things feel skeevy, get out. And if you AFK outside your own sov in null or low, you deserve to die and lose those implants.
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
934
Quote:
All the bluster of "if you can't get out in your pod youFAIL!!" is full of crap for one basic reason: if the other guy(s) have SeBo and/or Remote SeBo, you're dead. No amount of spamming will get your pod out if you're locked and pointed.
A SeBo is not enough to lock a pod before it warps assuming the pod's owner is hitting warp before his ship goes down.
Froggy Storm
Paxton Industries
Gentlemen's Agreement
102
If you're looking to do mining outside of hisec to any real degree you might as well just join a renters empire. The drudgery is the same and the cut from your spoils will be higher. However, you get to have near perfect safety of the Intel (read local) and much better yield ore/ice in systems built up for those sites.
Otherwise just fit a venture and have a fun afternoon of running and gunning from the lowsec locals.
Karma Kelmalu
Boa Innovations
Brothers of Tangra
2
I have 3 miners and I have mined in both high-sec and null-sec, I have tried mining in low-sec but guess what... *boom*, I would highly not recommend mining in low-sec solo.
In high-sec you'll make most ISK mining (from highest to lowest): Jaspet, Scordite, Pyroxeres, Kernite, Plagioclase, Veldspar, Omber. (From http://ore.cerlestes.de/index.html#site:ore).
As far as fit goes, retriever/mackinaw and covetor/hulk are never going to be tanky enough without a lot of yield compromise (or big ISK spent) to survive against a ganker.
I would recommend just fitting your barge with a maximum yield fit and then add a little tank if possible in the mids.
Zero Sum Gain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
12
Going into low sec with a retriever is like asking to have your retriever blown up in low sec.
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
827
personally for lowsec mining i'd suggest a Venture
aligns faster than the retriever
has an innate warp strength bonus
for either ship tank is moot, they are going to die if something even looks at them
but your best option for a tank .. ASB + Extender rigs + DC
SghnDubh
BattleClinic
12
Huttan Funaila wrote:
As for the fits on Battleclinic, (snip) the players there frequently post remarks such as "stop posting mining fits" and downvote.
Let me know who's doing this and myself or the mod team will correct that behavior.
BattleClinic - killboards, loadouts, ETC for EVE
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
201
Max yield 1.0-0.9 mining.
2 T2 mining upgrades.
Meta 4 Damage control.
Survey scanner
2 T2 mining lasers
3 drone mining augmentors
5 T2 mining drones.
Has over 14k health which is plenty in 0.9 for a retriever.
If you want to do other securities of space look into a mackinaw or a skiff.
